just thinking

so i want to sale my o ventrails that are in the 45 tall. would this make a good size salt tank? could i make a tank with lower mantince but still it be baller? this is for you chirs if you didnt already know lol. what would be the best and easiest? just a garden? just fish? or what you know what i like bro what could i do and what would be the cost of start up roughly to see if i wanna make the jump. thanks and any one else with salt experince chim in to please. thanks

personally i wouldnt use a 45 gal, too tall. your going to need alot of light to get the penetration u need down to any corals in the lower half of the tank. I also hate 12" width tanks over 30 gallons. Also with all that height, but small width, your aqua scape will be tough, getting your live rock to look good but still have spots to place corals.

do u still have the 40 breeder u bought off me last year? that would be perfect.

no man man we ended up saleing it idk why but we did shit well there that idea goes...

well u could always sell off the 45 and use it towards a 40 breeder... heck even a 20 long would be a sweet reef tank... i just dont like 45's cuz of all that height.

this is a crappy pic, but this is my buddies 15 gal, lil tank, but an awesome nano reef. We used a 10 gal for a sump.

4x 2ft t5 HO's. small marineland pump for the return off the sump and a couple koralia nanos for circulation... we made a homemade siphon overflow box for it as well.

pretty inexpensive set-up, to have a really nice nano reef.

very nice and yea that is sweet but how much is that set up? and i can get a 20 long for free we sold all not used tanks and i was thinking ive read saltys useing those metale halied shop lights would there be a way to use those or some other high out put light to help or is it just to tall?

over a 20 L i would get this light
http://www.aquatraders.com/Odyssea-48in-4x54W-T5-HO-Light-Fixture-Extendable-p/52303.htm

after that u will need a siphon overflow box... i would use the small E Shopps overflow box. the pf-300
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18358

a 10 gal for the sump

return pump: something like the marineland 1100
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18358

75-100w heater

GE silicon I doors and windows, hose claps, 1/2" & 3/4" tubing, acrylic sheets for the sump walls, a couple barb fitting.

30lbs of live sand, and 20 lbs of live rock.

a koralia nano or 2

also some random pvc for the return line

ok thanks bro thats deff a good start for me ima have to call you some time to see if im for sure wanna to dip my feet into this new world

the marine land 1100 is the same as over flow box

http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18989

There ya go Derek. That's the pump Chris was tryin to link you to.